Why teach four fingered braking?

WHY TEACH FOUR FINGERED BRAKING?

Guest: David Weed, currently an MSF-certified RiderCoach and RiderCoach trainer and formerly the lead technical specialist for the Washington State Motorcycle Program.

Episode Summary:
Join us for a fascinating chat with David Weed, a certified RiderCoach and instructor trainer with the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF). We tackle the contentious issue of four-finger braking in motorcycling. Listen as David demystifies the myth of four-finger braking, highlighting its practicality, effectiveness, and role in the MSF curriculum. From his insights, you’ll understand that while the MSF doesn’t prescribe a specific number of fingers for braking, it is essential for riders to have the freedom to experiment and find the method that works best for them.

David also brings to light the importance of effective communication in motorcycle training. We engage in an enlightening discussion about the necessity for instructors to be clear in their teachings. David underlines the significance of questioning our own beliefs and keeping abreast with the latest guidance as instructors, which makes for an intriguing listen.

Finally, we venture into the realm of motorcycle safety and strategic thinking. Bret and David emphasizes the need for riders to make decisions based on their own experience and understanding of the motorcycle’s response, rather than strictly adhering to instructions. In addition, we discuss the mental aspects of riding, providing insights that can help improve your riding experience. So tune in and be part of this enlightening conversation. And remember, our podcast doesn’t have any advertisements or sponsors – we’re all about sharing knowledge and engaging in discussion.

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What Boots Should I Wear?

MX BOOTS VS ADV BOOTS

Guest: Alex and Bret discuss some of the advantages and challenges of switching to a heavier boot for ADV riding.

Discussion Points:
1.  There is huge difference between motocross boots and boots that are marketed as an Adventure boot.

Key Takeaways:
– There is the challenge of getting away from boots that you can walk around in.  Move into boots that actually protect your ankles if you fall down.

Boots mentioned in this podcast are the Sidi Crossfire 3’s – purchased on Amazon here. 

Disclosure: I only recommend products I actually use, and all opinions expressed in this podcast are my own. This post contains affiliate links that – at no additional cost to you – I may earn a small commission.

Tire Talk

ADV Tire Talk

Guest: Jarrett King is an ADV rider and mechanical designer at Mitas Tires.

Discussion Points:
1.  Air pressure – should I air down before riding off-road?
2.  Why is the manufacturer’s baseline pressure different from what’s written on the sidewall?
3.  Can a rider increase or decrease the size of the tire on the bike?

Key Takeaways:
– It’s interesting to observe what people think they can feel and what they can actually feel when it comes to tires.

Large & Tall Bike Setup

LARGE & TALL BIKE SETUP

Guest: Kip Kyler stands 6’4” with a 38” inseam who is riding a Husqvarna 701.  He has made a few adjustments to accommodate his height and weight, but still feels cramped in the cockpit while riding.  He has reached out to Bret to find out what other adjustments he can make and what kind of suspension he may need to install.

Discussion Points:
1.  How to choose the right spring for your riding style and weight.
2.  How to find the right local suspension tuner for you.
3.  How to determine the correct suspension setup needed for you.

Key Takeaways:
– When a bike is suspended properly, it will greatly increase your confidence.  People don’t understand how important setting up the bike properly is.

– Many people adjust their bars to be comfortable when standing straight up.  This is not correct – if something catches you off-guard, it can throw you off-balance and you end up with a whiskey throttle.

– Preload does not actually make the springs stiffer; they just feel stiffer.

Invest in Experience, Not Farkles

INVESTING IN EXPERIENCE

When taking riders overseas on motorcycle expeditions, Bret has been surprised to note that participants don’t have the problems he would expect them to have.  In fact, less-experienced riders quickly develop their skill sets and become confident off-road riders very quickly – much faster than in any traditional training environment.  Bret dives into this phenomenon with his friend and instructor Paul.

Note:  If you are bothered by foul language, please start this podcast at 00:56.

Guest: Paul Solomonson teaches alongside Bret and enjoys riding a BMW 1200GS off-road.

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Discussion Points:
1.  The highest risk issues in traveling overseas or in remote areas.
2.  How to change training to quickly and effectively develop skill sets.

Key Takeaways:
– Make sure you practice the things that are uncomfortable to you.
– Focus on the skill sets you don’t think you’ll ever need.

Videos Mentioned:

  1. Mistakes riders make in tight places.
  2. The Bar-Stop Skill – Ride Like a Pro
  3. The Rolling Dismount – Ride Like a Pro

Stop Being Complacent

AVOID DANGEROUS COMPLACENCY

Sometimes riding can be not very exciting or even downright boring.  The excitement of reacting to everything on the road fades away once you feel you’ve encountered most situations and feel comfortable with the threats that are common to motorcyclists.  However, this natural progression can lead to a dangerous lack of focus… and that’s when the curve closes up too fast or the deer is directly in line with your headlights.  Bret talks about methods he uses to keep focus while riding. 

Guest: David Holy is a Patreon subscriber and rides a BMW 1200GS.

Discussion Points:
1.  What is riding with a PLAN?
2.  How can I avoid getting distracted in daydreams while riding?

Key Takeaways:
– Identify the IMpossibilities in order to see the possibilities.
– You should never go faster than the distance in which you can come to a controlled (non-panic) stop.

Trail Braking Rant @ 22:50